Just listened to the oxenmoot panel yesterday regarding the movie vs books and one comment was how horribly stupid this scene was. How amusing. How rediculous.
Were they seeing the same thing I am? I doubt it. Prof. Corey (The Tolkien professor) also has issues with this scene. But for me, the rampaging Dead is not laughing; it harkens back for me to old Cymry tales of the Wild Hunt. I take that very seriously and respect the movie Aragorn for having the strength to NOT gibber in the night but bring aid to his people.
Ugh, yeah... save me from the academics who sniff at film deviations from canon. That's one reason, to be honest, that I can't really get very deep into traditional academic study of Tolkien. Not *everyone* holds that sort of supercilious disapproval--I heard a wonderful lecture from an instructor at one of the universities in St. Louis who was quite enthusiastic about the films and how they tie into the books even while deviating from them (without giving them a pass for the really bad deviations like Elrond's characterization)--but there's enough who are so noisy and condescending about it that I've found it quenches reasonable discussion. Drives me nuts.
Anyway, I'm with you in thinking there's much to love about this sequence. It shows Aragorn isn't afraid of the Army of the Dead, which any *sane* and *ordinary* many would be... many of his own DĂșnedain were, for Pete's sake! It was only Aragorn's strength of will that kept them riding through that horrible night. So it shows that Aragorn is no ordinary man. It would have been ace had the films included the whole Grey Company but I can understand the constraints of run-time and budget. So instead, I enjoy this scene for what it *does* accomplish in showing a deeper part of Aragorn's character, and I can enjoy the book version, because, frankly, that whole Army of the Dead section is friggin' amazing. I kinda feel sorry for those who can't appreciate both, to be honest.
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Date: 2014-09-23 01:08 pm (UTC)rangerkingman you want to have at your side! :o)no subject
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Date: 2014-09-23 09:11 pm (UTC)Were they seeing the same thing I am? I doubt it.
Prof. Corey (The Tolkien professor) also has issues with this scene. But for me, the rampaging Dead is not laughing; it harkens back for me to old Cymry tales of the Wild Hunt. I take that very seriously and respect the movie Aragorn for having the strength to NOT gibber in the night but bring aid to his people.
Pity the foo who gets in his way. :)
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Date: 2014-09-23 09:27 pm (UTC)Anyway, I'm with you in thinking there's much to love about this sequence. It shows Aragorn isn't afraid of the Army of the Dead, which any *sane* and *ordinary* many would be... many of his own DĂșnedain were, for Pete's sake! It was only Aragorn's strength of will that kept them riding through that horrible night. So it shows that Aragorn is no ordinary man. It would have been ace had the films included the whole Grey Company but I can understand the constraints of run-time and budget. So instead, I enjoy this scene for what it *does* accomplish in showing a deeper part of Aragorn's character, and I can enjoy the book version, because, frankly, that whole Army of the Dead section is friggin' amazing. I kinda feel sorry for those who can't appreciate both, to be honest.
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Date: 2014-09-24 02:27 pm (UTC)Seriously this was a fantastic patch of PJ's work. The Dead were really creepy... and so noble in the end when they were fiven their 'lives' back.