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My admittedlyvenerable computer keyboard is dying, i think. THe shift key is sticking and the space bar is only working intermittently,and an hour popping off keysand cleaning didn't fix it (and i think something importantmay havebrokenoff the spacebar key. *looksat tiny plastic bit with some dismay*).

I suppose unless i want all my text looking like hashtags on twitter mated witheecummings poetry, i best hie me to the store fora new onetoday.

(see what I mean? AUghhhh!!!!laklsjdjdsdfojiosdffjsdfdsjdf0)

Date: 2013-09-02 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluegerl.livejournal.com
Ten years!!!! That is a venerable keyboard. Venerable. Needs a monument erecting or something! Mine is two.. and already has no letters except the h and j and a b and a t... and all the numbers. I align my fingers by those four letters... tried painting letters, but it wears off. I wonder if nailpolish... ??

The spacebar on my NEW HP computer is like yours, only it has NO EXCUSE!!! WHATSOEVER!!!! it's NEW... but it needs BASHING and I do not remember to BASH ... god - it is irritating, so I do understand your frustration. Happy Shopping!

Date: 2013-09-02 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
your Perfect Icon is Perfect!!

Since posting this, I think I've more or less bashed most of the problem out of mine, but it still sticks now and then, and moreoever, it feels "off", so... wah. Gotta get a new one. I hate getting used to new ones, which is why I've kept this ancient one for so long.

already has no letters except the h and j and a b and a t... and all the numbers. I align my fingers by those four letters... tried painting letters, but it wears off. I wonder if nailpolish... ??

My M, N, L, and comma keys are pretty well worn away, but I know where they are without looking (plus, there's dents in the keys from my fingernails hitting them for all these years!), so that's not a problem for me, but a coat of clear polish will probably protect yours, I'd think.

Date: 2013-09-02 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
I have managed to get the same kind three consecutive times, because I hate getting used to new ones as well. I need a certain kind of pressure under my fingers to be able to write well and fast, and so far prefer Logitech wireless keyboards. The recent one is a different type as the old type didn't exist any longer, and it took a while getting used to, but now I'm glad becasue it's much easier on wrists and elbows.

Date: 2013-09-02 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I might try the Logitech one, although I hadn't wanted to pay the extra money for a wireless keyboard. But I bought the only wired ergonomic keyboard in the stores and it has a horrendously hard to press space bar--nothing's wrong with it; from all the articles I looked up, it appears to have been designed that way. So I'm going to return it and try something else. In the meantime, I'm using a small keyboard we had stuck in a closet against a keyboard breaking when we could dash out to replace it right away. I like the feeling of the keys on it, but it's not the split ergonomic one, which I prefer. But at least it has a usable space bar!

Date: 2013-09-02 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
Since I had my first wireless keyboard, I'm hooked on them. But then I often need to put away my keyboard or mouse fast, because I need space for books (the rest of my desk is hopelessly cluttered), for the mic, or for doing some tiny fiddly things with tools I prefer to do on my desk because the light is best. I always had Logitech boards (after having spent four weeks on sick leave due to keyboard-induced tennis arm from my work keyboard I'm rather cautious), and one of the upsides for the wireless ones is they have power-saving technology making the batteries last very long. I use rechargeable ones, but still don't fancy changing them every week or so as I had with a Cherry cordless desktop and my MIL with another brand variety.
Then I need a "straight" mouse because I'm using it with the left, and well-placed arrow/direction keys because I use them very often, so the choice was limited. I have this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-combo-mk520) which is the best I ever had. Even the letters rub off more slowly than usual (this always happens to me, with every keyboard. Has to do with the chemical of each individual's skin, I've been told. One should think they could provide keyboards taking that into consideration, though).
It's the first one where I could write more than four hours without break and with out getting pain or numbness anywhere. It has its price, of course, but my keyboard is one of the few luxuries I allow myself.

ETA: I didn't realise you were speaking of a split ergonomic one on the first reading, sorry. I've tried that once, but couldn't get used to it. For me, anything that forces my hands to bow upwards is uncomfortable and causes pain or numbness after some hours, even if I usually don't have any problems at all. I've learned to cherish the very flat keyboards, where my arms and hands can remain completely horizontal.

Looking keyboards up, I just found the note for one of them that it's "comfortable to touch typists only". Can you help me understand what that means?
Edited Date: 2013-09-02 11:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-02 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
Looking keyboards up, I just found the note for one of them that it's "comfortable to touch typists only". Can you help me understand what that means?

It means typists who don't have to actually look at the keys. I'm a touch typist, have been since I was taught that way, waaaaaay back in high school.

And yes, I need an ergonomic one, as the straight ones do to my wrists exactly what the ergo ones do to yours!

Date: 2013-09-02 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
Thanks for the explanation. Then I'm a touch typist, too; in German it's called "writing blind".

Good luck with finding one! *crosses fingers*

(ETA for icon fail)
Edited Date: 2013-09-02 11:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
I have the same problem with the keys. Thankfully, I trained myself to write blind so I don't miss them most times, just when I have to type passwords. With the next new one I plan to put small pieces of transparent adhesive foil over the keys usually getting naked first.
My current keyboard has perhapts nine months, but already since half a year the left control key often gets stuck, which is really annoying as it wreaks havoc with things I'm doing at the moment. And I'm regularly using pressure air to blow out hairs from underneath (necessary in a house with two cats), put off a key or two to clean well underneath and take good care of it... but still a new keyboard every two or three years is necessary.

Awesome icon, by the way!

Date: 2013-09-02 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrowe.livejournal.com
Ten years?

I usually kill a keyboard within two, three years...

Date: 2013-09-02 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I have a feeling any keyboard I buy now will have that planned obsolescence. :/

Date: 2013-09-03 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrowe.livejournal.com
They're not built to last, but I suspect gaming has something to do with it as well since I usually kill off the w-a-s-d keys and a few more I use a lot in the games I play most.

Date: 2013-09-02 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
That is a most venerable keyboard. I recognise the problem with the space bar - I get that problem when I get toast crumbs under it...

Date: 2013-09-02 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I was hoping that was all this was, but it appears to be a problem deeper within, below the membrane where I can't get to it easily and probably couldn't fix it even if I took the entire thing completely apart. Which, after the way the new one didn't work out (extremely stiff space bar, so it's going back to the store tomorrow), I may end up doing in the end.

For now I'm using an old, tiny straight laptop style keyboard we had stuck away as a spare. Not as comfortable as my old ergonomic one but it will do for now.

Date: 2013-09-03 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Don't know if it helps, but I bought my husband a new keyboard for his birthday last year and he says it is the best ergonomic one he has ever had - he has had no problem with it at all - it is a Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5000.

Date: 2013-09-03 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
That may be the one I end up with. I liked the feel of it, but not the cost! I bought the 4000 instead and I could just slap Microsoft for messing up the design of the space bar, because I loved the rest of it. *sigh*

The search will resume today at some point.

Date: 2013-09-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shirebound
How frustrating! I hope you find a shiny new (inexpensive) keyboard today.

Date: 2013-09-02 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I'm still on the hunt. The new one I tried today won't do--you have to practically stand on the space bar to get it to work. :P So it's going back tomorrow and I'll try another.

Date: 2013-09-02 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
That is one weird requirement for a space bar. What are you supposed to do with that, call Jean-Luc to the rescue each time or what? *g*

Date: 2013-09-02 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
LOL. Perhaps it's the "aerobic exercise" model, designed to burn more calories than the easy-touch space bar. *G*

Date: 2013-09-02 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
Argh, that is annoying! Though ten years is, indeed, venerable. They don't make this kind of things any longer, I fear...

Date: 2013-09-02 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, no, they don't, though I might poke around on ebay to see if I can find one...

Date: 2013-09-02 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellynn-ithilwen.livejournal.com
10 years? Wow.
Will there be a monument? Special funeral? *giggles*

Date: 2013-09-02 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I'm very tempted to have it mounted and hung above the mantel! LOL

Date: 2013-09-02 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
Hunting trophies of the urban nomad! *lo*

Date: 2013-09-02 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jay-of-lasgalen.livejournal.com
After ten years it deserves an honourable retirement!

The keys on my old laptop were nearly all blank with age. It didn't bother me much, but annoyed Mr Jay greatly ;>) The wireless keyboard I use now seems to be made of sterner stuff - no worn keys at all.

Date: 2013-09-02 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
It'll be interesting to see how well whatever new keyboard I find holds up in that regard. I doubt it will last long enough for the ink to wear off. It took the last one about 5 years before it started to fade and even now there's a hint of the lettering left.

Date: 2013-09-02 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-winterwitch.livejournal.com
:o))) This reminds me of a joke we used to play on our teacher in "computer classes" back when this was brand new, in the mid 80s: shuffle the keys a bit around on the keyboard and see how long it takes him to find out...

Date: 2013-09-02 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
I have People in my class have been known to do that very thing...

Date: 2013-09-03 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindahoyland.livejournal.com
You are amazing to have kept a keyboard so long. Mine only lasted a couple of years. I hope this laptop will be stronger!

Date: 2013-09-03 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
Those old original Microsoft ergonomic keyboards were very well made. They rattle like an empty boxcar compared to the new ones, but they worked really well. I've discovered a few online... it's very tempting to get the same one again, but I do like the quieter keys on the new ones.

Date: 2013-09-03 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Gogetthatnewkeyboardasap.

:D

I recommend this one.

Date: 2013-09-03 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
O.O ooooooooh!!! I wants!!!!

Date: 2013-09-03 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estelcontar1.livejournal.com
Mine never last to this venerable old age, because my nails, which I should remember to keep pared, scrape off all the keyboard letters. Then, I have to buy a new one so that my brother in law can use it when he comes visiting.

Date: 2013-09-03 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
If it's just me using it, I don't care if the letters come off. But yes, if you have a brother-in-law that needs the letters, best keep new ones for him.

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